Is it just me, or is Rush Limbaugh a bigger, fatter, more insane, lying blowhard than I even thought he was?
Did you just come to this realization? That’s been my opinion for several years now!
No. That’s always been my opinion of Rush, but he seems to get more ridiculous every day. If this guy is the voice of the Right, they’re gonna be in the wilderness for a LONG time.
Call me naive – but when I very first heard Rush Limbaugh on radio, I thought he was a comedian. Then I realized people were taking him seriously.
Well, Keith Olbermann always refers to him as “comedian Rush Limbaugh.” The problem is the hatred he foments is not funny.
Enjoyed your observations regarding the most successful radio host in the history of broadcasting.
I think Rush has made a big mistake in putting out sound bytes which can then be clipped out of context and used to make him look badly; an example is his wishing failure on the Obama presidency. He wishes great success for America but doesn’t think that’s compatible with a huge-government, socialist regime enjoying great popularity with the masses…there are two distinct thought processes at work in our country, and they are bound to clash.
Probably the best thing to do regarding politics is to mistrust all politicians and hope that some how, some way, the principles which made America the greatest country in the world can remain steadfast. Nothing personal, but if anyone reading this doesn’t happen to like America and disagree it’s the greatest country in the world, please find that wonderful place better than what we have here, and move there…and send me a post card after 2 years reminding me that I’m making a big mistake by staying put.
We’re great because we respect one another’s rights, including freedom of speech, and including the right to disagree with the current regime, whomever that may be.
I voted for people who left us worse off than we were when they were elected, but I don’t think a President is so omnipotent as to be able to control the entire economy, most world events outside our borders, the stock market, etc. Our government is a collaboration of left, right and center…and all of the above have had something to do with our successes and our failures. Our free market has been tampered with. Our energy to succeed has been stifled by the unwarranted punishment of success. We have an unfair tax structure which should be based upon spending, not earning. Many of my close friends and even some family members whom I love dearly may disagree with me, and that’s okay…our diversity of thought is necessary for a good country.
What can kill us quicker than any foreign bomb or terrorist plot are two enemies within: APATHY and IGNORANCE. If you don’t think we’re in trouble, watch Jay Leno on the street asking people questions about our government!
Read the quote below (from 1931!!!) and tell me where this man’s thinking was flawed, because this is how I think, as well:
“You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.”
PS: I am enjoying dmperkins.com, and I think David Perkins is a great American.
All the best,
your friend Kent
~~~~ Dr. Adrian Rogers, 1931
Ahh, there’s the defender of the Right Wingnuts that I know and love. Welcome, Kent. It’s great to hear from you. I’m glad you took the time to look around.
History is littered with people who were extremely successful at what they did, but were still despicable. The ability to garner an audience is not a measure of righteousness. Rush’s claim of “twenty million listeners” is, in reality, about fourteen million. Certainly nothing to sneeze at, and a number that would be welcomed by anyone in broadcasting.
But, as a percentage of the electorate, they are the same small core base of the right wing of the Republican party who still believe that George W. Bush was an exemplary president. They are the same small core who will vote for Sarah Palin for President of the United States if given the opportunity. They are a loud and vociferous lot, to be sure, but they are a minority and they are on the wrong side of history.
Rush’s problem is that you don’t need to lift him out of context to expose the hatred, racism, bigotry, and sexism that he espouses. I absolutely defend his right to say anything he wishes, and there is clearly an audience for what he sells. Rush, however, will be the FIRST to attack your character, your honor, your belief in God, country, and apple pie, and your patriotism, if you happen to disagree with his point of view.
He has built his entire career, and spawned a cottage industry, based almost exclusively on bashing Democratic presidents. But just let it slip that you’re embarrassed that a Republican president is from your state, and the wrath of the mighty Rush, and his legions, will be brought down on your head. Hell, I was embarrassed that George Bush was from my country by the time he was done.
Luckily, nobody cares what I think, or I could be one of the targets of his relentless demagoguery. But, do I think Rush Limbaugh’s platform should be taken away? Absolutely not. That’s not what this country is about. Besides, that would leave too many people sitting around not knowing what they should think.
Rush may wish “great success for America,” but only if it’s success as he defines it. He does not believe in Republicans and Democrats “reaching across the aisle” in an effort to find common ground, and a way to effectively govern this country. In fact, he soundly pummels any Republican who even hints that he might try. There is no common ground, as Rush sees it, and the only “success” is ultra-conservative, unhindered, Republican rule. Accepting anything else is treasonous.
Rush only believes in freedom of speech for himself, and for those who agree with him. The rest of us are socialists, Godless communists, feminazis, “reverse racists” and enemy sympathizers. We are certainly not patriots who simply see a different path for this country.
I want to say, I love my country and I support the troops, because this is one of the biggest myths of all that Rush likes to spread around.I would like to take to task the quotation of Dr. Adrian Rogers.
First of all, in the United States today 1% of the population has 70% of the wealth. So, that really takes the wind out of that 50/50 argument. I do not agree that we should take money earned away from those who earned it. If we had a flat tax there would be enough for everyone including the fewer than 12% who are disabled and unemployed. Plus we have to look at our current situation in the United States and I have to ask, Was it the poor who took over banking and drew up a plan to convince people that they could afford to buy houses that the lender knew they most likely would not be able to afford the balloon payments on? These same banks will not lend to these same people today (less than one year later). Where has the money gone? To save the banks, not to the home owners. To the banks who made the loans. None of the people who made these loans have lost any of their pay, not even their jobs. Do we even need to reflect on Madoff?
Another question, who has made all of the money off of healthcare? More than 45% of the nation’s employed do not have healthcare because business is no longer required to offer healthcare. Who made healthcare so expensive? Not the doctors. It has been managed care. Managed care does not provide a service other than deciding who gets care and who does not. Not one of the CEO’s or CFO’s lost their salary or their healthcare. In one of our local hospitals in Texas, the surgeons were making around $400,000 a year minus their malpractice, licenses, certifications and everything it takes to stay in practice, but the CEO was making $500,000, plus a $24 million dollar bonus, because he kept the cost of taking care of the members of his health care group so low. And, part of that was denying treatment to people so that they could go back to work.
Do you want to punish people who make below $50,000? That is what is happening in the country. The middle class, the true middle class does not make over $200,000 a year. The middle class are teachers, nurses, technicians, auto workers, construction workers and the non-commissioned military who have family values. They value taking care of their children, but find it harder and harder to give them a balanced meal, college,and healthcare.
Whether it is methodically happening or happening by chance the middle class, the core of our country is being forced into being poor. We will have castles and moats soon and you love our America. I always thought America took care of it’s own. If you had a family member who either could not work, or could not find work, would you say to him/her, “too bad for you.” Would you leave him/her on the street to live while you sit all cozy in your house? I really am wondering. Isn’t it true a country or a family is only as strong as it’s weakest link. The country I love is becoming a third world country where only the wealthy survive.
We use to have enough for us all. What happened? Where did the jobs go? Oh, outsourcing, so that businesses didn’t have to contend with paying a decent salary and healthcare.
I think the big issue in this country is fear and greed. My 87 year old Mother tells me all of the time how it was during the depression. Everyone took care of everyone else. This was the greatest generation. I don’t know where all of these selfish greedy people came from, not even talking about politics, talking about big business in America that has been given free rein over the past 8 years (at least) to just have their way with the American economy. Big Brother has been forced to step in when the children can not monitor their own behavior. Overall, the business leaders in this country have acted as if they are three years old and they are rushing to put all of the toys or dollars in their toy box. There is little regard for the woes of the working class people, much less concerns for the poor in this country.
Come down from your ivory tower and take a look around at the working Joes and Janes in this country who are working more and making less than they were 10 years ago. Oh, and take a look at your own portfolio. That did not happen since Jan 20, 2009.
Helen in Conservative Texas
Thanks for jumping in here, Helen. The more the merrier. Or maybe that should be, the more the contentiouser. (Don’t think that’s actually a word.)
Kent and I have been trading political opinions, sometimes in a very “spirited” way, for several years now. We disagree on almost everything socio-political, and the one thing our exchanges have demonstrated is that you can completely disagree with a person’s politics, but still love and respect the human being. Even when they are wrong. So, so wrong.
Hey Kent, maybe I should post our 2004 presidential email “debate” on this forum! It was one of the best discussions I’ve ever had, politically speaking, and I thoroughly enjoyed our exchanges.
Thanks for the compliment on the site.
Please post the 2004 presendial e-mail “debate.” I would love to read it.
Also, why shouldn’t you make up words among other things, we had a President who did. (smile)
With love and respect,
I won’t post those emails without Kent’s okay, but thanks for permission to make up words. I think I do it a lot.
This is America, and this is what free speech is all about. Funnily enough, I agree with much of your characterization of Rush…he’s not my savior or messiah, nor is he my spokesman, but he’s often right. Not always, but often. I think most people who really, really hate him don’t listen to him at all; they just take sound-bytes from Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow and the like, and drink the Kool-Aid being poured down so many throats from the far left’s own wing-nuts. That’s the way I see it. But we have a lot of common ground, fellow natives. I am a conservative but don’t want any helpless child or elderly person or mentally or physically disabled person to go without excellent and affordable health care, and I think we’re a great enough nation to see to that. I love the flat tax idea; at least it doesn’t punish success! Think how hard or how smart the top 1% of the nation had to work to get there, and give them a break….it’s not our money, folks, if we didn’t earn it, so why covet it, scorn it, or think it ought to be confiscated and spread around just because there’s so much of it? No, it’s not fair to do that. Let’s all give a small percentage of what we earn and let’s have a fiscally responsible government that will use it wisely to help the truly needy. And let’s remember what our greatest modern president, Ronald Reagan said, “I think the best welfare program is a job.” I love you all and wish America and, yes, even our President success. I think his success is our success. I disagree with Rush on that one….
I also believe gay people should be able to marry and be as miserable as the rest of us, so Rush would take issue with me on that..but I don’t care. I think for myself. And as for your patriotism, the mere fact you’re willing to have a meeting of the minds with me on a political blog means you’re a patriot in the very best sense of the word….someone who cares enough for your country to get involved!
But please don’t expect me to drink the Kool Aid.
Wow – You go Helen – I’m in your corner all the way!!
So Kent – I see Texas has taken it’s toll on you. Don’t you miss LA????
I’m just shocked I have such intelligent old friends. Thanks David for the platform.
Live from woo-woo land
But Kent, it’s STRAWBERRY!
Have you ever noticed that, while you have come to your political and social views through years of thought, debate, weighing the issues, and sorting them out with careful reasoning, the people who disagree with you have obviously taken “the Kool Aid” and have been brain-washed into radical and irrational thought and opinion. They can’t possibly have arrived at their views through any reasonable, rational process.
Ergo, the people who think Rush Limbaugh is full of crap have obviously been given “the Kool Aid” and have been told what to think by Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann. People who think Rush is a reasonable and rational voice, who espouses truth, justice, and the American way, have arrived at that conclusion by listening to his arguments, weighing their merits, and judging him to be right.
I can’t find a flaw in that theory. Can you?
Good Morning All but especially Kent!
Many people are correct “often.” I was going to say something about a monkey at a piano, but I thought better. Anyway, I listened to Rush when he first came on and people would get together in the metroplex at lunch to have listening parties. That was when he was supposed to be an “entertainer.” Personally, I was appalled that anyone could be that mean on purpose, so I went with the entertainer scenario until I realized if you are what you think, he was a very miserable person, and I have even compared him to Howard Stern as far as value of content. I do try to give people, even Rush, a fair chance, but when he starts talking about turkey basters, I’m sorry that is none of his business, and not a topic for radio. I think Rush has been given too much power, and it sounds as if you agree. My point here is garbage in; garbage out, and I do not want to pollute my mind with such hatefulness for humanity.
The top 1%…many have inherited, many live on trusts; many have made their money off of the backs of others, and there is no problem with having money, as the Bible says, “It is the love of money that causes evil.” I think the current news headlines will attest to this.
For the last 10 years of my career I worked with employing people with disabilities, and others. It is difficult to get people who are different or unusual looking (not by their choice of tattoos or piercings, just their general appearance)a job. I did placement services and wrote training materials under the Bush administration. I have a little knowledge of how hard it is to get a job. I have worked helping people write their resumes only to have them dumped right into the garbage. We need for businesses in this country to succeed so that the people do not have to depend upon the government or their local churches for a place to sleep or food to eat. I agree that everyone does better if they are working. My son who has a teaching degree has been unable to get a teaching job because he has epilepsy controlled by medications. He is doing construction now to take care of his wife and babies. He is only one example in this area of people who need jobs. Not everyone can manifest a job out of thin air. How many of us are willing to go the extra mile with an individual to help them find a job or even give them a job. I agree it should not be the governments place to take care of people, but what are you going to do with the poor whether legitimately poor or poor because of their own human failings? I just do not think you can cure the problems of the poor by ignoring them or by telling them to get a job, no more than you can cure the health care crisis by saying, “don’t get sick!”
I would like to recommend a very good book about this topic, “Nickled and Dimed” by Barbara Ehrenreich. You will learn some amazing facts from a woman who knows about such things. It is a necessary read for anyone who works with people or cares about people who want jobs and are unable to find one or get one or when they do they still can not makes ends meet, “the working poor.”
Kent thank you for such an open dialog and forum. I am a person who is blessed financially, but I never take it for granted, and I know what it took to get here, but not everyone can have the opportunity to work hard, get a good education and a job. Some people work hard and never get anywhere. Some people are losers, but I still do not want them starving to death on the streets. People have greater compassion for animals than for people.
What’s wrong with letting losers starve to death on the streets?
Just kidding…but it’s the losers feeding them I’m worried about…lol
Anyway, below is something someone sent me recently which lets you know why I choose to be a conservative. I don’t want to me homogenized, pasteurized, and slathered with morter so I can be just another brick in the wall, to quote Pink Floyd*
*(this is for old people who know who Pink Floyd is).
This is what a friend forwarded to me yesterday:
An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had
never failed a single student before but had once failed an entire class.
That class had insisted that Obama’s socialism worked and that no one
would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.
The professor then said, “OK, we will have an experiment in this class on
Obama’s plan”. All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the
same grade so no one would fail and no one would receive an A.
After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B.
The students who studied hard were upset – and the students who studied little were happy.
As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and
the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.
The second test average was a D!
No one was happy.
When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.
The scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted
in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.
All failed; to their great surprise! Then the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail becausewhen the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great ~ but when government takes all the reward away
no one will try ~ or even have a desire ~ to succeed.
(back to live action here) So, friends, it didn’t work for the USSR in the 50s and 60s and it won’t work here. Take away motivation and all you have left are bricks in the wall…
including a few “clinkers” now and then.
If the mortar fits, wear it.
All the best for America’s recovery and success,
PS Just read one of David’s articles “A Few Things they don’t tell you in Parenting Class” and it made me a little bit emotional…I knew that old bastard had a sensitive side, but I didn’t know I had one…. lol
If only life were so simple, and so black and white. The headlines in the Fort Worth Star Telegram yesterday was about the veterans returning from Iraq unable to get jobs. What would you do about these people who have served our country so well? Have you been in a Veteran’s hospital since 9/11. Do you know that under the Bush White House that the military was not allowed to acknowledge post traumatic stress syndrome as a treatable disorder/disease?
For now, let’s not look at the number of people with mental illness or disabilities who living on the streets. Let’s talk about people who are capable of working and do not work because they want welfare (which by the way is a thing of the past.) In 1996 welfare was replaced with Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF). In this Bill Clinton plan, people who were unemployed were provided services to become employed. Twenty hours out of every week had to be spent at either seeking a job, seeking job skills, or taking classes.(Teach them how to fish.) These people are only allowed 5 years to take advantage of TANF. After 5 years they are not allowed to keep living on the “dole.” Did you know this? I did, because I have worked with helping people find jobs who are on TANF. Again look at today, not 1930. Socialism, communism are all fear tactics that so many conservatives push off as reality. What about the theory of abundance? Now we may have to define abundance according to Madoff or Mother Teresa? Now that is black and white.
Let me remind you that here in America, with all it’s social injustice, a little girl from a poor ghetto in a cheap apartment with no daddy had a dream….she worked real hard, studied real hard, and got sworn in this week as an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court. A half-white, half African boy from a poor family with no political ties just 200 days ago became our President, and a rich Jew from a privileged Florida family named Madoff was just put in prison for the rest of his life for being dishonest and greedy.
I like all three of those things.
Anyone with a dream, energy and passion can achieve success in America unless physical or mental limitations block that opportunity. We have 9% unemployment here, but we’re extending unemployment benefits to all those unemployed people for more than a year, and that ought to be enough time to start a business or find a job in America, still the greatest land of opportunity in the world. I have grass that needs cutting, cars that need polishing and windows that someone can clean, and I’m willing to pay a fair price for any unemployed person who asks me for the opportunity. I get very few knocks at my door, because it’s easier to draw unemployment than to lower your standard of living, start at the bottom, and work your way back, like I did as a young man. I washed cars for a living for a dollar an hour to buy school clothes, and it made me a better person.
Big picture: Economies, like the tides of an ocean, naturally ebb and flow both ways (dramatically and resolutely) like a pendulum. Whoever is in power gets blamed for the ebbs when it goes badly and credit for the flows when it goes well, but it’s not all their doing – - – not by any means. There’s so much blame on both sides of the political aisles for the current recession, that nobody can claim victory or defeat based on whether they’re conservative or liberal. Don’t even get me started on Barney Frank and “home loans for the needy” – - – so I won’t have to hear about Bush being the devil incarnate. Deal?
Caution, REALITY CHECK approaching > > > > > >
Please don’t tell me we need to look at all the wealth in America as “our (collective) abundance” and think it’s our job to start “carving it up equitably.” Russia tried that, boy….they really gave that thinking a chance to succeed…and it didn’t work over there. What makes you think it would work over here? That thinking is straight out of the Karl Marx play-book, and it may look good on paper but, maybe because people aren’t ants, it isn’t workable.
Take away a person’s motivation to achieve and eliminate the need to achieve and we will have a nation that sadly can’t achieve because it won’t achieve. Don’t take my word for it…look at any Communist country anywhere in the world, past or present.
Respectfully, your humble comrade,
By the way…
Cuba has a huge middle class, free health care, and no horrible rich people cruising around in Bentleys.
Scores of Cubans die each year trying to paddle a raft to Florida.
You know, I’m one of those people drawing unemployment benefits because it’s “easier” than accepting a job and starting over. I receive the maximum benefit allowed in California, and my unemployment check is 14% of the income I was making when I lost my job. I’m assuming it’s not much better for people who were less well-compensated than I was.
I was talking with a friend today, who lost his job not long after I did. He has started night school to begin a new career and, in two years, he hopes to get a job that will pay him approximately 25% of what he and his family have become accustomed to living on. He’s fifty-three years old, with a mortgage and a kid in college.
And thanks for the generous offer to wash your windows, Kent, but even “a fair price” won’t really get me on the road to recovery. I’ve got a kid starting college this fall, too, and a mortgage, and I don’t really see polishing your cars as a pathway to a new and prosperous career. There’s a huge difference between taking whatever work you can find as a young man, whose only concern is some extra “school clothes” – and starting over in a carwash as a middle-aged man with a family to take care of. That may be why you’re getting “very few knocks at your door.”
So, for all of you still lucky enough to have your jobs, and are sick and tired of us freeloaders living the high life on your tax dollars, bite me! If you really think anyone prefers living on unemployment benefits to having a good job, get fired, file a claim, kick back and join us. See what you think. It’s free money. And you don’t even have to work for it. It’s really sweet!
I don’t think I can top any of that! I did find myself wondering though if you, Kent, would answer the door to that person in need of a job. Would you, really? What would you pay him? Just wondering. I might need a few bucks. What is your address?
I re-thought my last tome. I have oversimplified things a bit. However, I really do believe this is the land of opportunity and if a college dropout like me, with about half a brain and a serious case of A- D- D- (”attention-deficit-dat’s a nice tie you got on”) can manage to support himself, then anyone with a healthy body and the will to do so should be able to follow suit.
I have a great deal of compassion for people. Yes, I open my door to anyone and would give anyone who really needed it a job if they asked. I do it all the time. I have hired people on the spot to wash sidewalks or weed flower beds at my shopping center, even though I enjoy doing those things myself. I have a twice-convicted drug dealer building fences and doing other chores for me at the ranch; I hired him because he told me the truth about his past, showed me the letter from the DA demanding he pay back child support for his 7 kids…I’m not making this up….and I hired him. Not for minimum wage…I pay him almost double that, and give him extra money for fuel when I call him out for something special because he lives 18 miles away. I buy his lunch every day when I’m there and he’s working. None of this makes me a good person; I get value from his work. My point is, here’s a guy that could be on unemployment waiting for the government to help him. He just came out of prison having done 8 years so he has no job history. The tattoo on his neck, which he got in prison, would prevent him from working almost anywhere…you don’t often see WalMart greeters with Nazi sculls on their necks. But he’s my employee and my friend and I trust him because I believe he’s paid his debt to society and he wants to do something better for himself and his kids. After all, this is America.
My point is — and I’m sure you were wondering if I had one — is that the government isn’t there for us as a hammock; it’s a safety net. Hammocks are seductive, but not so great for permanent bedding.
People need the dignity of not being on government assistance if they’re able to work. A dollar earned is worth more than 2 dollars handed to someone.
That said, Rush Limbaugh is wrong when he claims every American should be able to either buy health insurance in a competitive market or do without it. The fact is, too many kids in too many poor families won’t ever have health insurance unless there’s a public option, a safety net for those who can’t help themselves. And this country is strong enough, even in its weakened condition, to do that for them. I don’t mind paying a little more, even having a little less perfect health care, to help make that happen… that doesn’t make me a very good Republican in some eyes, but I couldn’t care less. In fact, I might just care a little more.
By the way, I had dinner last Thursday with my buddy Kinky Friedman, who’s running for governor of Texas as a Democrat in the next primary in March, 2010. Please check him out but don’t count him out. If you’re a Texan, you might want to visit kinkyfriedman.com and make a small campaign donation. Send a message to Rick (the haircut) Perry.
I promise, though…no more political ads.
I may have to report you to the RNC. Michael Steele may want to have a talk with you.
Hey, I contributed to Kinky in 2004. I’m STILL getting spam from that guy!
The RNC put me on waivers when I started pushing for affordable health care for everyone.
Shame on my Christian principles. Huh.
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